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WindwardAway said:

Do you think MTR can be scum, or are you just voting for self-pres?

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Nightingale said:

BN boils down to:
1) he tried to prevent a wolf yeet despite saying he didn't care
2) Mazer had info that put him in a pool of players where it is increasingly unlikely he is town
3) He was almost yeeted D3 and then an event took place that dropped all votes off him - to which he showed zero surprise - and then instead of going back to the player he'd said he was willing to yeet before he taunted badger who was suddenly in the lead for votes.

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And then there's the fact that from my PoV, Drey, Val, LDG, and Badger are all lock town. And Jarrod is the known 3p neutral.

That only leaves BN, MTR, Tildey, and You.

And I am like 97% positive Tildey is town.

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Badger said:

The Matthieu plan backfired so looks like a plan B.

He has completely ignored Mazer BN info.

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Insaner said:

Well, my reads on you and Badger ARE different. I don't actually view his stunt yesterday as scummy even. It just sounds like he thought he was onto something and talking himself into it. And I liked his engagement otherwise. But having a scum read on you doesn't mean not giving you the benefit of the doubt.

I kinda think you're outed today though after what happened yesterday with the votes.

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Insaner said:

What made you think I wasn't willing yo give you the benefit of the doubt? I came into D3 suspecting you very heavily but I wasn't saying "BN is 100% scum". I was saying that IF scum were trying to save Claws then your play on D3 fit that description. But the possibility remained for me that you were town. I took the day to watch and see which person in my 4-person Poe I wanted to end up on. And even voted Tildey for the large part of the day.

I feel like you were mostly just pleading for yourself yesterday. There's also an issue of you being saved from votes yesterday. What do you think was up with that?

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Insaner said:

Looks like Badger f-ed up proper well yesterday but hey it's alright everyone makes mistakes right let's not dwell on it to much

Vote: FutureHold/VOTE]

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Mazer said:

Which is interesting since jarrod was my main clear.

Is he in the clear?

Feels opportunistic to the leading train

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Mazer said:

Why Badger specifically? Other people went with me

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Mazer said:

I'm confused by this. What did Badger say about him having deed on you?

Short of something I missed, this looks like a mislead.

Vote: Futurehold

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Badger said:

I NEVER said I had deets on you! Following Mazer.

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Nightingale said:

BN is outted scum as far as I am concerned. So is future.

He's not shocked in the slightest that someone decided to save him, which means he expected it.... and I doubt he's town with this ability since he's playing cat and mouse with badger's life instead of just using the ability and then going back to a vote on future which he said he could get behind earlier today.

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Badger said:

I guess it didn’t occur to me since there was info and an eleventh hour not sus-at-all action but I guess I shall ask.

Will you?

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Badger said:

@Nightingale @Mazer @Dreyski @LemonDemon @Peter Griffin @Dreyski @Val the Moofia Boss @MTR @Tildey @Insaner

Strongly encourage you to join me on the Grumpy train or go Future. Either way get one of those two out (Foxxi I know you voted Future but in case you wanna switch)

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Dreyski said:

Don't entirely love the train - but if the info is good:
Vote: Blind Ninja

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Mazer said:

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This one seems relevant

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Mazer said:

Also this one

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Nightingale said:

No offense, but the first part of this is just wifom. I can easily see you agreeing to murder Void because I know you wanted him dead too and if anyone looked your or claws way for it you could just argue it would be insane and look too bad to do. Kinda exactly like you tried to do yesterday to argue against choosing claws.

As for CWE the fact I wasn't the target doesn't convince me that was a choice - I think after the way yesterday went I would have been the target of *any* scum team if they could choose there. I think it may have just been last on the train, or random... so not sure that clears you either.

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GrumpyCat said:

I see both vk and cwe as red kills. Purple could be a threat but even if so there are like 2 of them while it would seem there are 3 red no?

Unvote:
Vote: blind ninja

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Insaner said:

You have put me in your bottom pile along with Future and BN who you are trying to kill to today. My assumption is that same tier means similar feelings.

Just wanted to state it for the posterity that I'm totally in favor of Future and BN getting the heat they are getting now. People can consider my vote to effectively be on all 4 of the people in my immediate Poe pile and that regardless of which one of them goes today I would very likely want others from it gone on future days anyway.

BTW I caught that Mazer was hinting at some sort of track/watch result when he listed 7 good characters and 6 bad ones and said that BN was more likely to be bad than not but decided not to comment on that then and let it play out.

I'm also acknowledging that Jarrod is claiming an innocent result on Mazer and I don't have reason to doubt it really. In fact I'm not actually scum reading anyone in my outer Poe pile which just makes me want to cross my fingers that I got all the reds in my primary Poe otherwise I will probably be at a loss for where to look.

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Mazer said:

I'm not aware of where people would typically get an exact action confirmed. It's usually things like who and place.

In the absence of a defined target, I would expect a player to get a more general finding.

Are you saying the info is wrong then?

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Mazer said:

since we're close to 24 hours, maybe you and the folks would like to hear some.e hot gossip on blind Ninja.

Word on the street was he acted last night. In a manipulating way.

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Jarrod1983 said:

I did already press BN on all this yesterday and he did put his vote then later after the back and forth.

Between his and Tildey's vote, I feel like Tildey's was more scummy.

Unless that whole character reveal change is being considered.

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Badger said:

BN - A bit uncomfortable about him as he did the minimum effort last phase voting in and out. I know he said he did not like either option but knowing that he likes to solve and quiz people I thought he would have quizzed more than just the usual suspects he does in LDG and so on.

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Nightingale said:

@MTR
@Mazer
@Val the Moofia Boss
@Matthieu
@Jarrod1983
@Tildey
@Peter Griffin
@Dreyski
@Blind Ninja
@FutureHold

I've removed the people who have already given some reads and thoughts or - and badger, whi just promised to in a bit... for the rest of you: I would like your thoughts on who you think is suspicious and why please.

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Insaner said:

The biggest question mark on Dreyski wagon for me is PG. I doubt he would just vote Claws and peace out like that if they were partners. I think the only world where that happens is if Claws told his partners to just bus him right at the beginning of D2. In that world, I would expect for at least 1 other scum to jump on the Dreyski train behind him. I don't strongly feel that is the case so I am going to discard this possibility and assume that everyone on the Dreyski wagon is town for now.

I'm reading jarrod as the wrong townie on the scum wagon.

BN's scum equity went through the roof for being consistently opposed to Claws yeet. IF there was mafia trying to influence things and sway the yeet away from scum then he is the guy. Plus he gets hit by the mighty tell of "saying something but actually voting there way later" so if this has always been the true way to catch wolves then I'm ready to embrace your teachings now.

Tildey's belated push back against Foxxi's case is a big oof as well.

I'm squinting my eyes at Matthew derping at the start of day after other people have already made the mistake of assuming that yesterday's thunderdome just looks like a shameless attempt to reach for the cookie jar of deep clears at this point.

Future, you're just scum.

So my poe is BN, Tildey, Future, Matthew

With an outer poe of Grumpy Cat, MTR, Mazer, LDG

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CWE has been eliminated. He was Sonic & Knuckles, Town Searcher.

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Mazer said:

I haven't changed my town lean on dreyski, but I don't agree with a clear.

There's no reason void couldn't have hit twice.

But I'm not going crazy with that, because my attention is elsewhere.

Just need to go deeper on something. Do we believe the language about attention was a result of a purple action?

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Nightingale said:

I do not understand why this seems to be rocket science.

We have two choices and one of them has done actually sus things.

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Jarrod1983 said:

I thought you saying you wouldn't sheep for Foxxi and then unvoting was weird.

Then you saying you were content with your minimum vote effort I felt was also weird.

You've contributed more than some though for sure but the vote and unvote to me is like, I don't want to pile on Claws because maybe there is a scum or two there already but don't want to see a push for Dreyski pick up steam because scum wants Claws gone or even Drey is scum. Not looking for anything just saying that is unusual from my point of view.

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Jarrod1983 said:

You can if you'd like, it'd be more normal of you than saying the minimum is acceptable.

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Jarrod1983 said:

You're never ok with minimum effort from anyone! Sorta fishy.

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Jarrod1983 said:

Isn't it sort of sheeping Foxxi if you just put the minimum vote in and then unvote it? If you really didn't want to sheep you'd put a vote on Drey and let it stand so who she's pushed overly hard this phase doesn't get eliminated.

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CWE said:

Without KNOWING Void did this, it's just 50/50. Becuase I refuse to believe scum would put one of their own in this. And the only people who KNOW if Void did this is, Void (dead), Psycho (probably not going to tell us right now. Call it a hunch), and scum.

Unless someone has a reason to KNOW 1 is scum, just keep it close and see if scum swing it.

So the question is @Dreyski anything you can say for your talent this game? @Claws anything you can...meme? to tell us for your contribution.

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Nightingale said:

I also don't think a bunch of don't yeet me gifs are alignment indicative either? He offered some thoughts about who he'd yeet instead - but only when I asked, and otherwise he's not tried to communicate much of anything except saying he's town... which anyone in his position might do. I think it may feel towny because he's here and making a lot of those posts, but that's really more of just a claws thing. He did something similar in a game not long ago when he'd been poisoned or something - minus the restriction - all he did the whole phase was beg to be saved and only gave minimal other thoughts... and he was totally scum then. I'm tired and should be asleep, but my point is I don't see how he's behaved today as towny. Could go either way, and therefore does not give me cause to ignore the sus behavior I noted yesterday.

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Nightingale said:

For fucking sake, no. Not everyone is going to be scum. My point is there is NONE of that for drey at all other than me and peter's random vote. Which makes me feel even more confident drey isn't scum... and claws might be - I want to bash your head into a wall right now I am so frustrated with trying to explain what I feel is obvious to you... but I still think you may just be being dense and stubborn here --- but there are others for claws that *could* point at you being wrong and that people are trying to sway things from him.

Like that future pop in bugs the shit out of me... and you don't seem to want to even consider what I am saying

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Insaner said:

Clearly, we are all mafia defending our buddy Claws.

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Nightingale said:

Okay. And who other than myself and peter are voting claws right now? Have I not given the scum team plenty of opportunity to agree with me and follow along if they wanted to protect their buddy drey?

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Nightingale said:

Where it seems like Claws actually has some resistance outside of yourself is the second half of that. There's the quiet votes of grumpy and CWE, future popping in to be like "give me a good gif to convince me not to vote you" and now BN too

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Nightingale said:

There's also the fact that no one other than me has said a word in drey's favor... where claws has future who seemingly popped in asking for an excuse to not vote him, and now BN who is trying to sound reasonable but is still ultimately arguing with me about my feelings on claws.

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LemonDemonGirl said:

Vote: Nightingale
You're oddly active this game.
That bothers me.

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Nightingale said:

No, I think technically Matthieu did but he didn't call it as such. But it honestly doesn't matter to me because Drey didn't have to draw attention back to it *again* if it was going to bite him.

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Nightingale said:

I could be reading claws wrong, but right now I don't see any reasons to read him as town. Nothing he's done says town to me. And I don't see a scum drey being like "look at that rule that worked before" when to people other than him, he would be included in that list. It doesn't make any sense - as soon as future and insaner get proven to not be scum, people would go after him... and it would make even *less* sense to draw attention to it if either of those two were partners. So no. I feel Drey is just town here.

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Nightingale said:

I've already said that, yes - I do think Claws would do exactly that. But more importantly is the reverse. I do not think a TOWN claws would have hedged around and not just voted Void when he went for the push.

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Nightingale said:

Seriously though. If *no one* else actually thinks either of them are scum, doesn't it make sense to at least listen to the person who does have an opinion?

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Nightingale said:

Also it is interesting you decided to quote that and ignored the post directly after it where I pointed out the more serious argument: exactly no one has said they think drey is scum. So if no one has an opinion and yet we HAVE to pick one of the two - why can't it be the one I have a scum read of?

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Nightingale said:

Except I have actual reasons I am sus of claws - not just "he has to be removed because he's so tricky" --- so no.

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Nightingale said:

C'mon people. Just sheep me, either I'm wrong and everyone can laugh at how stupid I am or I'm right and we yeet scum. It's a win-win.

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VoidKitten said:

Listen Dad. I was in Jazz band and had multiple solos for alto saxophone. What else do you want from me? Do I complain about your porn habits and how you relax? No, so let me play BG 2 and leave me alone.

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VoidKitten said:

Correct. So it's FH, Dreyski, and Insaner.

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VoidKitten said:

So according to Abbi's Law, since I was first to 3 votes

Future, Dreyski, and Insaner likely contain a scum :D

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Mazer said:

Annoyance without purpose is like trying to plug your old 2600 joystick into your PS3.

Especially when you can do your homework and set up things that will come back in this game and in the future.


Hypothetically speaking....

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VoidKitten said:

Since Bwon is voting the shiny thing that moves

Vote: Sleep

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LemonDemonGirl said:

Aaaand you're Scum
Unvote:
Vote: Void

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VoidKitten said:

To be blunt, your way annoys me because I expect more from you :D

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VoidKitten said:

I mean. Isn't that Val's standard MO too to put down a random.org vote and disappear on D1?

Why not ask Foxxi for her opinions? Or ask me for my shitty opinions? I wanna judge you interacting with people who may actually interact back over a couple posts.

Play your way. I am not telling you what to do, but that is what I want to see and look for

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Nightingale said:

Which is fair... but you can't expect other people to see that as being helpful when nothing ever comes of it. Basically I'm not buying the "I'm trying to get them to interact which is pro-town" vibe. If you want me to read you as town, do stuff that actually has impact.

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VoidKitten said:

Don't be shocked if I vote you one of these days if you focus on interactions with them instead of others, then

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Nightingale said:

Agreed. I understand the frustration of wanting more from them - but the fact is, you're more likely to get struck by lightning than get what you want there BN - I'd rather see you engage and talk to other players who *will* create discussion and opinions instead of doing the equivalent of talking to a wall and claiming it's in the effort to be helpful XD

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VoidKitten said:

I dislike and am ambivalent at the same time.

BN always pushes people for activity, but pushing people for activity on D1 is dumb. Especially SPECIFIC activity. Sure, analyze D1 and ask questions, but demanding people give huge game opinions in the first 24h of the day is meh.

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Mazer said:

Playing Dead or Alive Beach Volleyball is not supporting single mothers. Idon't care what your interwebs rooms tell you.


Are you telling me that Jarrod and Badger were not fighting? Are you thinking that they doth protest too much?




if you would put the xbox 360 and do your english lit homework.....

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Peter Griffin said:

Badger is scum.

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Claws said:

A man of culture i see

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Claws said:

Delivering pizza and stalking ladies doesnt count as outdoor activitys

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Peter Griffin said:

Me too, ended up swapping it for a mates Mega drive with a load of games.

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LemonDemonGirl said:

This but with any Smash game

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Mazer said:

I'm not sure I count sitting by the window with your PSP Go counts as an outdoor activity.


But I am glad you are reaching out to jarrod. Maybe you can get him and VoidKitten get in a ping ping tournament. I think tildey would judge. I know you said that him and Badger were fighting. But maybe they secretly like each other.

I know it's not "as exciting as the Mortal Combating", but learning about your schoolmates can be good prep for life.

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Mazer said:

Hey champ, maybe he's just unplugging for a bit. You know, putting down the old Sega Dreamcast for a minute, and getting some fresh air.

You know...like people used to. Before they got into all this....stuff



That being said, I think the best course of action is to actively invite him to some outdoor activities first.



It'll do both of you good.

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MTR said:

Yup. Always scummy. Kind of like some of you guys always think I am scummy.

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LemonDemonGirl said:

Fuck I forgot there was a game running.
Posting just in case.

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Badger said:

Still though I think this target that’s come up is spicy. Don’t really want to vote Peter yet as want to see how he participates….

Vote: Jarrod1983

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Tildey said:

My inner voice hoping that's a sign we have a game that can be spreadsheeted

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MTR said:

Because you are scummy when you vote me and scummy when you don't lets be honest.

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Nightingale said:

Here let me sum it up for you:
"Day One Matters!!"
"All Days Matter!"
"You all disgust me, this is all just cries for attention and views"
*Everyone goes home and nothing perceptible happens*

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